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Look closer at Norway’s Socialism

Published July 27. 2019 07:27AM

A recent letter used Norway as an example of Socialism’s success: free education, free health care, “happy” people.

I had firsthand experiences of this, as I lived in Norway for two years.

Norway is one of the wealthiest countries in the world but the cost of living is also very high.

Food prices are outrageous. Each slice of bacon cost me the equivalent of $1 U.S., and a tiny, whole chicken cost about $7.

Housing and utilities are also high, and gasoline cost the equivalent of about $12 for a gallon. Of course, Norway’s oil company (Statoil) is state-owned and operated. In fact, the state drives nearly all the economy, since it is the controlling shareholder in eight of Norway’s top 10 employers (e.g., Statoil, DNB, NorskHydro).

The government will freeze wages and prices to control inflation. This happened while I was living there. No pay increases and stores could not increase prices despite higher costs for imported products.

Norway is also one of the most heavily taxed countries in the world. The high taxes needed to support Norway’s Socialism limit hopes of achievement. There is no cultural drive to work hard and get promoted. Higher wages vanish with health care and income taxes.

Norway’s universal access to health care results in the highest costs per person in the world. Medical treatment is free for those younger than 16, but others must pay a deductible each year before becoming eligible for an exemption card. A doctor’s prescription is needed for all medicines, even aspirin. Those needing testing or special care travel great distances, as only one facility in the country has the necessary equipment/personnel. There is no medical liability, since a government-sponsored system cannot survive malpractice lawsuits.

Health care is covered by the Norwegian National Insurance Scheme. Residents pay this tax from their first working day. In 2017, this tax was 8.2% of gross income.

Personal Income Tax is expected to be 38.52% by the end of this quarter. This was the record low in 2017. The all-time high was 47.5% in 2000.

A health care tax rate of 8.2%, plus this quarter’s income tax rate of 38.52% reduces one’s pay by almost half (46.72%). Would you be willing to take home half your salary while Uncle Sam takes the rest?

Norway’s sales tax is 25%, so a car selling for $20,000 would cost $5,000 more for this tax. Sales tax is 6% in Pennsylvania.

Are Americans ready to accept Socialism and its culture?

JoAnn Paslawsky

Tamaqua

Comments
Well of corse Joe would know more than the writer, after all, it's Joe! The writer only lived there Joe.
As for socialism? I believe if you ask, you'll find out that Norway’s economic system falls under a “Nordic model” which is a model of capitalism. Capitalism is the only reason Norway survives. But these fringe left lunatics (Every Democrat Candidate by the way) hates capitalism. They hate the word, "Profit". Oh but do they profit from the people. Crazy Bernie, the give it up for the people, candidate has three homes! Not sure how much Bernie pays for bacon though.
I am not sure what you mean about Americans wanting Communism “for us under Trump who is a Dictator in waiting.” I do not understand this at all. Have you read about Lenin, Stalin, & Karl Marx? Have you read about several despot Dictators & their rise to power, and, their eventual failure? Norway and Sweden have arguably the most ideal form of Socialism that is possible to exist. This is why Bernie Sanders refers to it with a gleam in his eye. I believe Socialism is a failed concept. I will never be a Socialist. Look at Venezuela for example. “Socialism fails when you run out of other people’s money”- PM Thatcher. Communism is worse. Read “The Gulag Archipelago” by Solzhenitsyn if you mistakenly desire evil Communism. Also, “The Rise and Fall of Communism” by Uslslam. Something is terribly wrong with anyone, especially any American, that would want to be a Socialist or a Communist. Is MSNBC feeding you this? Take the Rush Limbaugh challenge, AM 790, M-F, 1200-1500. Excellence In Broadcasting. America is great. “Democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.”- PM Churchill
“Democracy has to be born anew every generation, and education is its midwife.”-John Dewey
“MSNBC is fake news”-Mike Meyers & Rambo
Very nice post JoAnn. Thank you for sharing it. You were able to share the true cost of socialism from a first hand experience. You clearly displayed, at least to those who wanted to see, the high cost of the socialist system. Of course, some who were never there are ready to “inform” you of how things were, even though they never saw things as close as you did. Don’t be disheartened by such “arm-chair” experts that seek truth until it rests between their ears. Thank you for sharing. I love Norway, but, I dislike sardines.
The hoi polloi pontificating about a subject of which they have zero knowledge. I would like to know who provided this "closer look" . Fox "Faux" News, perhaps? Laughable... losers with narrow minds who think going to the A-town Fair constitutes being well traveled and experienced, criticizing countries that have existed for hundreds of years. America is less than 300 years old. Not exactly adequate time to boast a "track record"! But, hey, that's the trumptards. Ignorance and arrogance usually walk hand in hand... right off a cliff. These people will bring about the collapse of Democracy and rhe practice of free trade. Parting thought... you don't see lines of Europeans seeking U.S. citizenship!
With no collusion, you'll have to change that made up name.
Here's something close...
Jumping2Confusion. Works well.
Oh... if you don't like the nation as it was set up, and you embrace socialism... MOVE!
Have a nice day J2C.
God loves you, so do I
Make me leave tough guy. Why don't go back to where your greasy, Ellis Island trash ancestor came from. What the hell do you know about what this country was intended to be? Your filth washed up on shore after the Revolution. Tell me about intentions when you can join the SAR.
T2C, “why don’t go back to where...” here is yet another vocabulary mistake by you. You are a low intellect punk that has great difficulty with simple English. Is English your second language? You can not achieve an 8th grade level. Then you go on to insult others and make fun of their intelligence. This is so funny. Do you even know your A-B-C’s. Have your parents help you, for God’s sake...you must be the dumbest person that ever posted here. Ha Ha Ha. You are a dumb bully. Take those mouth muscles down to the military recruitment center and see what you can do. You are a weak bully that doesn’t know your alphabet. My intentions are to highlight your low intellect and punk like behavior. If you are a juvenile wait till your brain develops before you come here again. Watch Barney videos to help you out. You are dumb. Ha Ha Ha...tough headed weak bully. Keep it up...your spelling will improve.
Dumb haters like you, T2C, might bring about the collapse of Democracy. You are owned by President Trump. Phantom Republicans control you. You are weak and submissive to all Republicans. Your neighbors are Republican donors. Your family are huge Republican donors. Your parents celebrated the 2016 Presidential Election results when they found out Trump won. Your parents and family are Trump campaign volunteers for 2020. Americans & Europeans love President Trump. You, T2C, will jump off a cliff. Donate $1000 to the Tunnels2Towers fund...prove you are a Patriot. You are a fraud.
Hey, the socialist idiots had a debate, so let's do some math. Does anyone remember how to add? Here we go...
Kamala Harris wants you to “collect up to $500 a month.”
Biden wants – $78 billion for teachers.
The mayor and Harris - $ 125 billion for free college
tack on another $ 70 billion for child care
Bernie completely eliminates student debt, free tuition going forward, and free child care.
Crazy Bernie won the debate by outspending $ 280 billion
But wait... Bernie has the cure for all diseases and such for only $ 3-4 trillion more.
Bernie's food stamps and SS costs $ 188 billion more
Not enough money to do this Bernie, and there wasn't enough room here to continue.
Crazy Bernie outspends his way to the Democrats Candidacy. Old, White, Male and capable of spending... perfect
He might sound like Arnold Horshack, but hey, he fits the MO

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