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Local members of Congress take party line on impeachment issue

Published September 26. 2019 12:22PM

When it comes to the question of an impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump’s actions, our local members of Congress come down on either side of the issue in predictable party ways.

Democrats Susan Wild, who represents Lehigh, Northampton and part of Monroe counties, and Matt Cartwright, who represents the other part of Monroe, are now on board favoring the inquiry, while Republican Dan Meuser, who represents Carbon and Schuylkill counties, is vehemently opposed.

The central question is whether Trump stepped over the line in a July 25 phone conversation with the newly elected president of Ukraine and asked him to assist in a corruption investigation of former Vice President Joe Biden and Biden’s son, Hunter, who served on the board of a Ukrainian company.

First, let’s clear up some confusion on what impeachment is and is not. Two of our presidents have been impeached, but neither was forced to leave office, because neither was convicted.

“Impeachment” is similar to a charge and indictment against a defendant — in this case the president of the United States. The U.S. Constitution lays out the procedure that must be followed.

The charge must be brought in the House of Representatives. If a majority of House members concludes that there is justification to sustain the indictment, the spotlight shifts to the Senate for a trial, where two-thirds of the 100-member body must vote to convict before a president can be kicked out of office.

In the two cases where impeachment actions were taken — against Andrew Johnson in 1868 and Bill Clinton in 1998 — the House sustained the charges, but the Senate did not convict.

In a third impeachment inquiry, President Richard Nixon resigned in 1974 after the House Judiciary Committee voted in favor of impeachment but before the full House acted on the charges.

The Constitution provides that the president “shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” What these “other high crimes and misdemeanors” might involve has been left to the judiciary to interpret.

As for our local representatives, Wild, who had been on the fence about impeachment until Ukraine issue became the tipping point, said the use of public office to target political opponents and invite foreign interference in our elections is “unequivocally unacceptable.”

She also criticized Trump’s “repeated obstruction and stonewalling of Congress’ constitutional oversight responsibilities.”

Wild acknowledged that hers is a swing district and that her decision will not be popular among Trump supporters.

“Should we have to proceed down this route, it is the only decision that would be consistent with the oath I took to support and defend the Constitution,” she said.

Cartwright left some wiggle room by saying that members of Congress need to “get to the bottom of these serious allegations through comprehensive impeachment proceedings and document production,” because, he added, “at some point, it becomes necessary to announce certain conduct by an American president as unacceptable.”

As an ardent Trump supporter, Meuser sees the Democrats’ impeachment inquiry as an unlawful way to remove the president from office. He accused House leader Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats of focusing on creating a “far-fetched scandal related to a phone call with a foreign government leader.”

Meuser said the Democrats are rushing to judgment without having all of the relevant facts.

“This farce, which chooses to push a presumption of guilt where evidence is nonexistent, is nothing short of a constitutional embarrassment for our country.”

One thing you can be sure of is that the road down the impeachment mountain will be a bumpy one for members of both parties. Trump supporters will surround the wagons to protect the president, while his opponents will try to make a case for ending his presidency and short circuit his bid for another four years.

Many Democratic House members know that this will be a perilous journey that could cost them their jobs, especially in swing districts, but officeholders such as Wild say that acting on behalf of the country trumps their remaining in office.

As for the president, he has branded the call for the inquiry as another Democratic witch hunt.

By Bruce Frassinelli | tneditor@tnonline.com

Comments
Get you head out of you ass Levite. Since when is it the president's responsibility to lead investigations? Even if it were don't you think there would be a conflict of interest there? If Katherine Kane had been trying to lead an investigation against her republican rival (whom she was 12 points behind in the polls) don't you think that would be unethical?

If you can't understand this very basic concept than you are lost. You see me as an expert and I appreciate that but really this is just common sense.
Attention: Dean Browning will challenge the wild and crazy Susan Wild. Browning needs support. Bob Casey has done nothing in life but ride daddy's coat tails. He's a career politician who even as that... has done nothing. Wake up people, the evil one is on the rise, and he appears to be using people, against people. Remember, sin is no respector of man, and certainly not of political party. Let's stop the "party" war, and unify for factual truths.
God Bless
Well like the old saying goes "If you give someone enough rope they will hang themselves"
Did you hear that Mr. of the highest office protecting our laws
Barrrrr.
Man Oh Man how stupid, dumb, sleepy Joe Biden "bragged" about getting that Ukrainian Prosecutor that would eventually investigate his kid Hunter...

"I looked at them and said, ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ Well ... He got fired."

Sleepy Joe put the squeeze on, with taxpayer money, to save that "white privileged" son of his, and he's not investigated? Oh yeah, that's right, he's a demoncrat

Prosecutor that the whole world was pressuring Ukraine to fire due to not doing his job. Hunter Biden was never under investigation.
Mike that’s because it doesn’t fit the narrative. I watch Bill Maher and this morning on twitter, Maher was headlined because he admitted it Don Jr did what Hunter Biden did, this would be front page news splashed all over all media sources, even Maher can see this for what it is, partisan time wasting at our expense.
NOTHING! Hunter did nothing. It's the money he got for that nothing!
Joe, was that you in front of me at Burger King?
You ordered a Big Nothing Burger, Large Lies, a Large Diet Hoax, and to go... Nowhere!
You are what you eat (wink).
C’mon Tony, what did hunter Biden exactly do? Being on the board of s company whose CEO was being investigated is not in itself a crime.
Not as much as what hunter did as much as daddy bailing him out, even you joe would stand and question don/ Biden if they were in similar situations
Bailed him out of what? That’s my question. Please specifically tell me what hunter Biden did that required bailing out.

I think you’re being lazy intellectually. Do a little research and get back to me on what he is supposedly accused of. Otherwise it appears you are just accepting the trump narrative without confirmation.
Joe, your trying real hard to be “cute” but the fact of the matter is, the allegation is Hunter was going under investigation in Ukraine, and the accusation is Joe Biden threatened to withhold US funds until the Ukrainian prosecutor was fired. And as this whole story goes Trump was trying to look into this be it the right or wrong way.
Please don’t play stupid, especially if don jr was in hunter Biden’s position, it would be wall to wall news 24-7.

And before you level more inaccurate accusations towards me, I’m neither Republican nor Democrat.
Wrong, Hunter Biden was never a target of investigation. He served on the board of Burisma whose principal owner was under investigation. Look it up! Joe Biden intervened to press the government to fire the prosecutor at the behest if the IMF and the European governments that were also pressing Ukraine for this.

If you want to say that hunter being involved in ukraine represented a potential conflict I can see that but keep in mind he is a private citizen. Saying he was “under investigation” or potentially under investigation is grossly false. You might be independent but youre buying the trump/Giuliani propaganda hook line and sinker without doing homework.

But don’t take my word for it, look it up. Find one reputable source that reports on specific offenses by hunter that is not a “guilt by association”
Breaking: Schiff is scared... he’s connected with a Ukrainian Arms Dealer! Look up Igor Pasternak.

Breaking: Romney's Foreign Affairs Aid (from campaign) worked For same Ukrainian Company As Hunter Biden?

Look people, we need to unite to drain this swamp. Got that Joe?
I see trumps morning tweets got to you.

Igor Pasternak is a US citizen since immigrating in 1993 and is not an "arms dealer". He is President and CEO of Worldwide Aero that makes blimps. He has had defense contracts (US) but there is nothing illegal about that. Again, don't take my word for it, look it up.

Mike, you can't be this gullible...
Joe learn to read, I said these were allegations, I’m not making claims, with one exception, if this was don and don jr, the media would be making a bigger deal, that’s my one and only claim, coinciding ironically with Bill Mahers claim too
I read fine. What are the allegations???? I haven't heard one allegation of any wrong doing by Hunter. What is he alleged to have done that is the impetus of an investigation???

Look I'm not trying to be obtuse here but the most basic question to ask is what is he being investigated for? You especially need to ask that since Ukraine never identified hunter as a target of an investigation!



I’ve explained this, you’ll have to reread my posts, unfortunately this is times news so I can’t copy and paste links like twitter, btw allegations aren’t done deals , they are allegations. So when I bring up biden, I’m not proclaiming guilt,
Again, what is he alleged to have done??!? You keep saying there are allegations but you are not providing the crime he is alleged to have committed.
Nope sorry. There is nothing in your posts about criminal acts by Hunter Biden he is alleged to have committed.

Lemme give you some examples:

Hunter is alleged to have embezzled money.

Hunter is alleged to have extorted money from the government.

Hunter is alleged to have committed rape.

Tony, you are trying to pass off “allegation” with nothing alleged. He’s alleged to have allegations? WTF?!???
And to be precise, trump is trying to pass off the allege to allege BS, you are falling for it though
Joe, there is an allegation, that biden used American tax dollars, and threAtened to withhold them from Ukraine if a prosecutor looking into Hunter Biden wasn’t fired. I’m not making claims of any kind, for the 3rd time, this is the allegation in question.
Don’t believe it? Fine, refuse to accept it? Ok that’s fine too, but you asked, and this is the answer- again ....
I’ll give up trying to have you figure this out on your own. The issue with trump’s accusation is that hunter Biden has never been accused of anything to investigate! He was never the focus of a probe and has never been implicated. Trump is trying to make a guilt by association claim because the CEO of the company hunter was a director of was being probed for actions connected to his actions as Minister of ecology.
Joe this is as easy as you looking it up instead of trolling for an argument. Because I’ve wasted enough time arguing with you, i spelled out the argument/ accusations three times, on three separate posts. I’ve given up on you. You are bitterly partisan hellbent on making a point you don’t even need to make because as I’ve said also, three times, it’s not what Hunter is accused of vs what Joe himself is accused of doing. I have exhausted enough mental capital on this and you and I’m afraid I must move on because, you know, life doesn’t revolve around times news comments.
You’ll probably come back with some irrational rubbish about me following comrade trump’s orders yada yada , it will equate to a cheap shot. But you really want to know what I’m saying, page back and read what I’ve actually said, and contrast it with your nonsensical drivel and partisan attracts.

We have had common ground before, but on this , not remotely
You started this conversation with “if don jr had done what Hunter Biden did”. I have simply asked what did hunter Biden do? You have had no answer except to repeat what joe Biden did. It stands to reason with your opening statement you would be able to say exactly what it is alleged that “hunter did”

For this whole accusation to make sense it has to start with some iota of an idea of what offense was committed by hunter.

Partisanship is parroting the president’s talking points. I’m looking under the hood to see what is really there. I invite you to do the same. Btw, I do not support Biden, but I do support truth. In this case the truth is the president was caught discussing an apparent quid pro quo with Ukraine around defense funds to assist his candidacy and he is now trying to distract from that.

Don jr, and Don sr for that matter, are both people who were given everything on a platter and this has been known for decades and reported on. The fact that Hunter Biden benefited from his name and daddy too is no breaking news story.
No, then you extrapolate from that comment that Bill Maher thinks the impeachment inquiry is "Partisan wasting of time at our expense" which is untrue and trump’s talking point. That same night he said ‘Trump’s Got Treason on His Computer Like Most Men Have Porn’ and asked the question 'Is there a country Trump hasn't asked to interfere in our elections'. You provided a small piece and suggested, incorrectly, that Maher doesn't support the impeachment inquiry.

So that is why its important to get the full story.
I didn’t say Maher didn’t support impeachment inquiry... lol joe get a life dude, we are done, when you begin making things up it’s the end of the line on this conversation. I truly wish you learn to argue rationally, using quotes of things I’ve actually said. Good bye
Trump has multiple family members doing same thing. So investigating that is worth what? Trump isn't an investigation branch of government so its a very awkward claim. Both sides leverage political positions to get cushy jobs for family members. Unlike you I am consistent with morals. I think Biden should not be allowed to run. He wont win anyway. In addition Trumps sons need to be removed from all government positions and receive equal punishment. Trump and Biden should both serve a year in jail. But dismissing Trumps felonies is absurd! He's guilty and undeserving to serve as President!
This Democrat hoax for impeachment has given great gain to the finances of Trumps 2020 funds. Look that up. Ha Ha Ha
These Democrats can't win, and pretty soon... well... we're going to grow tired of winning.
Please check out: Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends by Peter Schweizer. Chapter 4: Biden’s in Ukraine.
The problem is that a politician has influence. Family & friends of politicians rule by proxy. Isn’t it strange how someone unqualified attains a cherry job? Everyone should be suspicious of this stuff. If the Biden’s have nothing to hide then they should welcome an investigation to exonerate their family name. Especially, if Joe is running for President he should welcome an investigation. Isn’t it strange how no one seems to be interested in finding out the truth? President Obama placed Joe Biden in charge of two countries, Ukraine & China. Isn’t it strange how Hunter Biden became involved with cherry deals with both countries? This kind of stuff is the swamp that needs to be drained. If you are ok with this you deserve the swamp in your backyard.
Hunter Biden? Really. Trump was investigating corruption of Hunter Biden. Trump has family members doing exact same stuff. You can't commit felonies and say your defense is you were trying to stop a political rival's son from getting a graft job. You sound like an idiot. Trump got caught and you are mad he got caught. And you believe he should have right to do anything. That is wrong. No one is above the law. You are shameful for enabling such a corrupt politicians. Stop making excuses and lets make America finally great by impeaching and then removing this corrupt asshole!
Don't they have something else they should be doing? Like who cares where the army stayed at what hotel? Let him profit it's not hurting anything! Go help someone. Pass a new law. Collect gambling revenue(that should be eliminating school taxes) go collect weed money( that should be going to wrongly a ccused pot smokers from way back) . Heck rig the lottery for me to won cus I'm about to call "SHNANEGANS " on that! (Really the cash 5 is hit like every week but I only know 1 person to ver win it... Come on man!!!!!
What the hell are you talking about? Trumps party didn't pass any laws when they had control of all of Congress for 3 years. Explain how they couldn't even get crap done when they controlled everything. Now House of Representatives are pumping out bills to be approved and President and Senate are doing nothing. So your argument is totally wrong! The House, they are doing impeachment. They also are only federal government body getting things done. The impeachment of a criminal is needed. Stop supporting corruption. More importantly stop being an idiot who puts political party loyalty over the welfare of this country. You are a disgrace for supporting such corruption!
In my 60 odd years. I have never seen so much effort to WASTE TAX Payers money on efforts to out a elected supreme court Judge and now our President. Think of all the money and energy these lawmakers have wasted! Millions. With the Judge they got no where! They wasted 23 million or more on here say. Oh. but Here say seems to be the " allowable version to remove someone from office".
Yet, it is not in any Official Court of Law allowed.
We as a Country are seeing our tax money being dwindled away by none stop investigations by the Democrat Party against our President.
From what I see as an Independent Voter, He is trying to Expose the Washington Corruption.
The Expose' started when Lois Learner from the IRS was targeting the Tea Party. Then Hillary Clinton Bleached her Hard drives, smashed her blackberries after she was sapenaed to hand them over. Then we had the Ordeals with FBI Director James Comey and CIA Director James Clapper. Our latest is Joe Biden's son getting a smashing Job for 50 to 80 thousand a Month with a Gas Company in Ukraine with no experience. And of course Joe Biden is on Tape smugly talking about holding back promised money to Ukraine (when he was Vice President) unless they fire the person who was investigation the corruption of the Gas company his son worked on . That is a Quid Pro Quo. Folks! That is Bribery!
What Donald Trump did in a conversation with the Ukraine president was NOT !
Yet, He is being accused of what Biden did. It is so Far Fetched and outlandish.
For those who defend this Deep State. You have no understanding of what is happening right in front of you! I grew up in a Democrated Home. We had a Picture of every President in Office always on our wall. It was respect. As a Child I was fond of John F Kennedy. My parents had taken me as a baby to see him campaign in Hazelton. They got so close that he picked me up. My Mother was ecstatic. He fought the Mob- they came after him and his brother. My mother cried when he died. It was a somber time. You loved your President.That's Respect.
The Democrated Party Today is not John F. Kennedy's. Kennedy's Party was Conservative. The Party today is a mix of Liberalism and Socialism. I keep hearing promises on what the Government will give you by all the Candidate running for Office. Since when did we become a County of Give me Free stuff by our Government?
Why would a Party want Illegal's to overrun our borders who expect Free housing, food,schooling and health care. While Americans are paying for it and many do not have it themselves?
I remember a Famous statement by Kennedy: Ask not what your Country can do for you. But what You can Do for Your Country!"

The Democrats are trying to change the Political map by trying to let the illegals in(IT'S FOR THEIR VOTES). They have no care about the violence , the drugs, the rapes, the murders , the crime or the economic hardship on communities that will entail our lives.
This is only about Power, control,change of a map,a vote and Dictatorship
Remember!
If they can go after this President they can come after you!
There is No stopping Them!
Your Country is Gone.
You No Longer are the Land of the Free!
God Bless America for Now


In 60 years? You have bad memory. In 90's the GOP wasted money investigating Clinton for getting a BJ. He lied and he was impeached. I agree with it. Now they are impeaching a piece of crap who has been caught committing multiple felonies. Bribery, collusion, obstruction of justice, tax evasion, I can't even list them all. Its that bad! Everything Trump has done has ruined America and made us weaker. He has passed no laws. Executive orders and poorly micromanaged agencies can all be reversed in 1 week of him leaving office. Everything he has done which has been terrible can be reversed since its not a law. America will be a lot better off once this lunatic is gone. I'm just really disappointed in people like you who hold political affiliation over the overall welfare of democracy! Why don't you love America? How can you support a traitor who has betrayed the American people. Illegal immigrants never have voted. he obviously don't vote or you would know that a complete fairy tale. Your mother would be very disappointed in you! She would hate Trump and cry that you support him. Shame on you!

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